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What Women Want25 Oct 2001 Once, in a sexual polarity class of Ann Davies, she said; "What we women really want is to be worshipped!" I have now been observing this for many years with myself as a sometime worshipper. Comments, you all?? It certainly didn't go uncommented on in her class--mostly from the ladies. Joseph _________________________ Sitting here thinking how to respond ...well, yes, I want to be worshiped....but.....big BUT....it carries such a responsibility....worshiped by how many...by one...by a few....by many....one loses freedom in the desire to be worshiped....maybe a little bit of worshiping....a balance of course. I know I want to be worshiped but not a lot...just enough...enough that I could handle. How much is that? Probably not a lot. The culmination of a desire brings with it a corresponding return of energy, does it not? Depending on the amount of worship one desires, the cloak of invisibility slips away. Can we just desire and still go merrily on our way doing things as we have always done once we get worshiped? No. It causes a change ... be careful what you wish for .. you just might get it. I like the amount of worship I get from my significant other but I don't want so much that I get smothered by it. What do the rest of you women out there think about being worshiped? Wannabe Cleopatra or someone farther down the line? Should we also be worthy of the worshipee's worship? If so, what does this entail? Do my questions suck?!!! Paula C. _________________________ > ....maybe a little bit of worshiping....a balance of course. I clipped your statement so that it would be a two-way street. Men want to be worshipped, also. > I know I want to be worshiped but not a lot...just enough... Perhaps a little more than you might think is appropriate, and a little less than you really want. But if you can learn to accept the worship, you might receive a great deal more of it than you thought you could handle. To feel that you deserve it, give it back freely. Noel _________________________ I only want to see and be seen, but if you think about it, that's asking for more than worship. From feedback from lovers, I'm what you'd call "high maintenance" due to my requirements which flow from the above, and what I want out of commune-ication and com-union. I want a flying partner. Let us worship the magic of duality/union together, laughing our butts off in sheer enjoyment of the truth of it. L. _________________________ I LOVE being honestly adored and appreciated. I sometimes have forgotten this and have played all sorts of games to divert attention away from myself only to find even deeper games at work to get that attention back. If I'm going to be worshiped, I like to think it has at least a little bit to do with recognizing the being who is 'me'! I see myself place an equal value on being able to, well, 'serve.' My desire to contribute to the well-being of creation in general equals or exceeds my desire to be worshipped. Life can feel pretty out of whack if either of these two 'primary' desires aren't being satisfied in some way. As far as being worthy of worship... the " little 'I' " ain't gonna get there, but do break the news gently. It is a vastly important vehicle after all, and deserves to be treated with love and care... even when it's convinced that it's the driver instead of the car. While it's preening and basking, or whatever other reaction may be occurring, the true Self in each of us is God. (I do love the phrase "God is me" as a shift of emphasis... Thank You to whoever wrote that not too long ago) So worthiness is taken care of already. Troya _________________________ Tried out Joseph's revelation on what women want. On bended knee, told my girlfriend that "women want to be worshipped" - She agreed, then proceeded to tell me what to do to make her feel more worshipped - more flowers and phone calls. Looking at Noel's response that "men want to be worshipped too." I'm sure that some do, but for myself I really don't feel this need, or even desire that kind of attention. Certainly we all want to be appreciated and treated in accordance with how we see ourselves, but "worship" seems too strong a term for me. When one knows who they truly are, however, I would think that the primary desire would be not to receive (as in receiving worship), but to serve, give, and share, an out flowing ignition or expansion, as in 9 acting through 1 (K19). Until that time, however, there is the desire to receive in its two primary manifestations: The desire to receive for oneself. The desire to be "worshipped" in its healthy manifestation, is a desire to receive for the sake of reciprocating (giving back), thus moving the interaction into a more harmonious, loving and healing realm, and increasing one's capacity for giving love as well. It is better to be the giver of phone calls and flowers, than to be the receiver of a burnt/cold dinner. :-) RL _________________________ Whoops! Ann Davies' platform comment about women wanting to be worshipped certainly stirred up the natives. But good to know you are still in the tribal enclave. IMO, There seems to be some confusion about the degrees of what might be termed worship. That extends all the way from respect to Deification and includes just liking, admiring, imitating, defending and unconditional approval. Which ones do you want/welcome and why; This is a rarely exposed nerve we are exploring. Hope you take advantage of it for in admitting your own predilections you are seeing so many of us are alike. I have observed that some with extreme capacity for worship also express its opposite when the worshipped one or idea is attacked or criticized. Joseph _________________________ Angela writes: Might have something to do with tendencies towards projectivity / receptivity of men and women on the various subtle planes. Of course this is a generalization, and individuals can vary considerably in their degree of mastery in each area.
"Talking" can be an emotional outlet, satisfying one's need for release. In other words, on the emotional plane, it is the woman who typically wields the phallus. RL _________________________ What Red Lion says makes sense to me, if it means that, as a rule, women tend to be more "aware" of their emotional and spiritual natures and, therefore, have more TO project by way of emotional and spiritual content. That they are more INCLINED to project it must in some way be connected to their communcation center. What Keys/Sephira rule the communication center? Clues would be available there. Women seem, as a rule, far more proactive in their communication STYLES. They ask questions, they prime the pump of social interaction; whereas, men wait until a question's been asked and, often, still prefer to remain silent. ;-) To go out on a personal limb here, the men in my life have tended to have the attitude that "If you need to know something, you'll ask," instead of offering information about themselves. This results in the concurrent attitude that being asked questions is an infringement on their "privacy." Since I was raised to ask a man questions in order to show interest and to be polite, this has been an ongoing source of frustration and amusement to me! Lynda _________________________ That is true, Red Lion, but I seem to be slow on capturing what this has to do with the need of communication??? Do you think is has to do with the emotional need of projecting ourselves that we feel the need to talk??? Angela
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