Rejection

23 Feb 2002

When I first tried to apply universal principles to get what I wanted, I failed spectacularly! 

The "woman of my dreams", brushed me off like a piece of lint.

In retrospect, it was the best thing that ever could of happened! I learned a massive amount about how consciousness works from that experience.

RL

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I have come to the temporary, impermanent conclusion that the 7 steps course of BOTA was a come on, a trap- and a good way to introduce the concepts of sub and self consciousness into the consciousness of neophytes. 

Failures to manifest in one's imagery makes one examine the reasons for failure--a very clever device to expand self-awareness.. I have noticed that students tend to ignore the failures of the "formula" they try and leap exultantly on a success with "Wow. It really works!" 

So many new age systems start you out by presenting a method of "getting what you want." So does BOTA, but there seems to be a far deeper purpose there than mere enticement, in expanding conscious awareness of self with new knowledge of sub and self consciousness, how they interact, and the enormous ramifications of this relationship in every aspect of our living. 

A subject of life long meditation! Sneaky, but with an intelligent, worthwhile purpose. So keep up your creative, manifesting practice, It will lead you to where you already are. Joseph

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07 Jun 2001

> Ann said that prospective candidates who were not suitable for [more advanced group work] always displayed some kind of unacceptable patterns before they were accepted. I saw this demonstrated once.  Ann told me to watch for something.  I did and it happened.  He was Jewish, Harvard summa cum laude without attending classes.  Being bright with him was just not enough.  In fact, it was his excuse for elevating and separating himself above the rest of us.  His contempt was obvious.  She was right!  Ann was quite sad about turning him down and he became very bitter and destructive to the order after that.  Joseph Nolen 

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He, and anyone else who is excluded, is certainly and always will be superior to those who exclude them. There can be no doubt about the fact that we are all really One.

We are all angels, here to use our lives in service to our fellows. One of the most important services is to be the objects of condemnation, hatred, disgust, and bigotry, and thus point out to others where they need to improve themselves.

The essence of bigotry is exclusion of our (believed) enemies, and this exclusion is the completion of the source of all evil: the attitude of desiring power over others.

Exclusion is the opposite of love, and is the main symptom of an attitude of separation from the One.

So, yes, she was indeed right, but how wrong she was!

M.B.

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That is one perspective; there are others. I don't suspect that every teaching is for every person, without regard to their spiritual development. We must sometimes use our most careful judgement to avoid placing a sword in the hands of a babe. Again, I speak only of my own experience. I know of confidential teaching, which, had it been provided to me before I was "duly and truly prepared, worthy and well-qualified," would have choked me, and been detrimental. It would have harmed not only to my own continued spiritual progress, but also to the progress of others around me.  J.S.W.

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Joseph Nolen > Ann was quite sad about turning him down and he became very bitter and destructive to the order after that.

Mike Brenner> That raises the question of how an Adept feels when he is rejected by an Order. Some Orders even make it a required initiation to reject you and see how happily you take it. Bitterness cannot be helped, when something is denied. Bitterness at rejection has always been in the genes. Making believe you are happy at disappointments is unnatural and is simply a lie.

Joseph Nolen> This made me remember two very vivid out of the body rejection and then acceptance experiences i had. It certainly tests the equilibrium of the soul. Didn't know any esoteric outer order used that method. They would be very serious, IMO. Making believe, or faking it present an appearance would easily be seen through with initiators with seasoned insight. Regarding rejection as an essential instructive part of one's growth would be looked for--a sign of maturity. 

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Joseph, you've also made me remember the most massive experience of rejection in my life, and the resulting outcome.

I was but a lad of 20 back in 1980 when I traveled to Washington D.C. for a series of interviews in application to the Navy's Nuclear Power Officer Candidate program. After a day of grueling tests and technical interviews, I had my (supposedly) one interview with the wizard himself, the legendary Admiral H.G.Rickover (Father of the Nuclear Navy).

The interview went something like this:

H.G: How long have you been interested in this program?

R.L: About six weeks.

H.G: (raising his voice) Six weeks? Why the HELL do you want to be in this program?!!!

R.L: (naively) Because I think it would be an exciting career.

H.G.: (now screaming) BULLSHIT!! You're not here for a career! You're here looking for a job! Where the Hell do you think you're going to get a job?!!!

R.L: Well, I could work for TI, or IBM ....

H.G: BULLSHIT!!! You don't know where the HELL you want to work!! GET THE HELL OUT OF MY OFFICE ! ! !

(At this point, I quickly stood up, and was rushed out of his office)

They had me cooling my heels in another room for a few hours while the other candidates got their interview with H.G. as well. Later they brought me back for another round with the master. The second round went pretty much the same as the first. He would start off asking some simple question which I would answer off the cuff in my naive earnest way, he would turn it around on me, and break out screaming at me, and THROW me out of his office, only to have cool my heels in a waiting room for another hour or two before being brought back in for some more "Special High Intensity Treatment."

Some fragmentary memories of our "conversations" (over the course of a total of FIVE interviews over TWO days):

HG: "You think you're smart don't you? Well you're STUPID!!"

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HG: "You keep F&*king up!"

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HG: Why do you believe in God? Can you prove that God exists? 
RL: I can't prove it, but I have faith.

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HG: How many square miles is Washington D.C. 
RL: I don't know.

HG: When do you think you and you're girlfriend are going to get married? 
RL: I don't know.

HG: (asks some other non-relevant question) 
RL: I don't know.

HG: (speaking to the Captain who accompanied me) "Now he thinks he has the formula!! Just say 'I don't know'!! (now yelling at me) GET THE HELL OUT OF MY OFFICE!!!!

Eventually, he did begin to get under my skin, a little bit:

RL: Look, admiral. If you don't believe me or think I'm being honest with you, then Don't give me the job! 
HG: (in a sweet, mild voice) Now don't get philosophical with me.

HG: What is the meaning of Propaganda? 
RL: (staring him right in the face) BULLSHIT. (meaning that propaganda is bullshit misinformation) 
HG: (in a complete reversal of his previous persona, says in a very mild, kind, sweet, goody-goody way) Oh no. Propaganda is the teachings of the Catholic church, etc....

So basically, whenever I would answer in a naive-earnest way, Rickover would attack me and THROW me out of his office. And whenever I would go on the offensive, he would meet my fire with water. He would act in a kind, sweet conciliatory fashion.

In other words, a complete mind fuck.

The hardest part, was after the first day of interviews (3 interviews), it was MY CHOICE whether or not I wished to return to "crystal city" the next day for another round of interviews with old' Hymen. At first I said yes, but later that evening I vacillated. After my recruiter gave me a pep talk, however, I decided to go back into the fire for another go. A real agony in the garden of Gethsemane!

Eventually, on my last (5th) interview Rickover says to me:

HG: "So, what have you learned?"

My reply: "To answer the questions!"

And I got accepted into the program.

So, it ain't the rejection that determines our ultimate success. We'll all get plenty of so called "rejection" in life.

The TEST is in how we handle our "Garden of Gethsemane" afterwards.

As for myself, I decided to re-enter the fire, in spite of my burnt ego, and engage the "adversary". Whatever the outcome.

The question is: "Are you going to quit, just because you ego's been deflated, or are you going to charge on towards your ultimate goal?"

There is no failure.

There is only (temporary) failure to TRY.

R.L.
(ex Submariner: SSBN 633B)

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Dear R.L., Thank you for relating this story. I'm currently very much in need of a pep talk, and this was exactly what I needed to hear. One's HGA works in mysterious ways, eh? <g> Thanks for sharing! :) Bastkity