Lost and Saved

Date: Saturday, October 10, 1998 9:35 PM

jc
i have to agree with H. regarding refuting your statement that no one is lost. when i am honest with myself i know that i had been lost and may still be to one degree or another. also when one looks around this world i don't think anyone could make the case that a majority of people aren't "lost". we just have to look around at the types of things that are being done and said to one another. doesn't take much seeing to know this. your response?
K

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There is lost, and there is LOST. The former deals with our level of awareness, the latter deals with the reality of God's relationship to his creation.

So we can certainly be lost (and I agree that most people are), but we are never LOST.

Therefore, a resulting corollary to this is that there is also saved, and SAVED. The former deals with Christ bringing one of his vehicles of expression into a state of realization. The latter deals with the reality of God's relationship to his creation. Since in fact, we were never LOST, we are already SAVED.

Most of us are not saved, but we are already SAVED.

In other words, since we are but vehicles for Christ we are SAVED (because we were never LOST). The vehicle itself however, so long as it lacks the total awareness of its true being-ness is lost. However, Christ has a plan to bring the vehicle into a state of purification so that He (Christ) may express through a perfectly transparent vehicle. This is what getting "saved" is all about. This is salvation. Christ saves you (his vehicle) by making you into a fit vehicle for Himself to express through.

Now from the Vehicle's (Personality's) perspective how is this Christ impulse felt? In three ways:
- Death
- The Devil
- Trial/Testing (Probation)

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N.,

You asked:

So JC, are you saying that everyone is already saved/born again and that no one is going to hell?

Perhaps this is an example of the Great Gulf?

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We are not saved, but we are SAVED. (see my email to K for a more detailed explanation).

In order to be saved, we do need to be born again, meaning that we must enter into a new state of being called "Realization" (depicted in Tarot by K20, Judgment).

N., the Great Gulf is only a Great Gulf if you judge it to be so. I invite you to STOP and Look deeper, for it is our judgments that separate us from each other, and from God.